DEADLY CONFRONTATION: Is this Beginning of Russia-NATO war?

Turkish government reports: A Russian SU-24M warplane has been shot down by Turkish Air Force (F16?) near Syrian-Turkish border. Pilots ejected. Possibly captured by Syrian Turkmen militia. One pilot  dead, one rescued by SAA. SU-24M never crossed the border into Turkish airspace. The incident was referred by Turkey to NATO, emergency meeting. NATO supported Turkey version of events. Russian government is analyzing situation, considers various diplomatic and military scenarios. Missile cruiser Moskva deployed to Syrian border region. Turkish military moves to the Syrian border prepares to defend their terrorist friends. Putin said Russia was stabbed in the back by the accomplices of the terrorists (Turkey) supporting ISIS and benefit [from Syrian war]. Russian warplane, shot down by (Turkish) F16 air to air missiles, never threaten Turkish state or territory and this was premeditated and unprovoked act and will result in serious consequences in Russia-Turkey relations. Lavrov canceled visit to Turkey. RF parliament condemned downing of the Russian warplane as direct act of support for terrorists. It is clearly dangerous escalation with unpredictable geopolitical consequences. Proxy war went direct. WWIII?

Does Turkey want a war?  Did they just openly took side of ISIS and the terrorists in a war against Russia and the state of Syria? Has Erdogan lost his marbles and went totally insane? If Turkey shot down the Russian warplane, Sultan of Ankara clearly crossed the line while Russian strategic bombers are flying, holding God know what’s onboard. Was Erdogan making good of his threats expressed just few days ago, warning Russians to stop bombing terrorists from al-Nusra and Turkey sponsored Turkmen militia?

S-400 stationed in city of Latakia would reach Ankara and cover 55% of Turkish territory and most bases from which F16 are flying. S-400 is capable of destroying up to 160 targets at one time including cruise missiles. Bad news for Turkey since in Evpatoria, Crimea the tracking systems cover the rest of Turkey.It kills everything that fly. Check this out: Erdogan better switches to biking.


Russia will deploy S-400 defense missile systems to Hmeymim airbase in Syria, Russian Defense Ministry Sergey Shoygu said Thursday.

Russia is deploying S-400 Triumf (NATO reporting name: SA-21 Growler) next generation surface-to-air missile systems to the Hmeymim airbase in Syria where the Russian Aerospace Forces group is stationed, according to Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu.

“S-400s will be deployed to Hmeymim airbase in Syria,” he said.

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Russian war plane never crossed into Turkish airspace and was deliberately attacked by the Turkish F-16 that violated Syrian airspace.

Here is the flight path of doomed jet:

While Turkey falsely complains this is how many violation Turkish air force committing yearly:

Allegedly a video clip of one dead Russian pilot from downed SU-24; (18+)


The terrorists have so much to thank the son of the Turkish president:

Latest From Sputnik news:

Russian Su-24 jet was downed with air-to-air missiles from the Turkish F-16 plane, Russian president Vladimir Putin said during the meeting with king of Jordan Abdullah II.

“Our plane was downed over Syria with air-to-air missile launched by Turkish F-16 jet. It fell on the Syrrian terrritory 4 kilometers away from the Turkish border. The plane was flying at an altitude of 6,000 meters 1 kilometer away from the border with Turkey when it was attacked. Anyway, our pilots and our aircraft posed no threat to the Turkish Republic,” Putin said.

The Russian Su-24 attack aircraft downed in Syria was directly participating in the fight against the Islamic State, carrying out preemptive strikes against the terrorists, Russia’s President Vladimir Putin said.

“They were carrying out a mission against ISIL in northern Latakia – it is a mountainous region where militants concentrate, most of them recruits from Russia. In that regard the pilots were carrying out their primary objective by launching preemptive strikes against terrorists who could return to Russia. Those are the people who definitely can be considered international terrorists,” Putin said during a meeting with King Abdullah II of Jordan.

The Russian jet crashed in Syria earlier on Tuesday with two people aboard. The plane was most likely downed by a ground missile, according to the Russian Defense Ministry.

According to initial ministry information, both pilots were able to eject from the airplane. Their current condition and whereabouts have not been released.

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Unrelated: RT crew came under fire in North East Latakia province, several light to moderate injuries among reporters.

Su-24 coming down from Turkish media:



” Meanwhile, Turkish media reported that either one or both of the pilots may have been captured by Turkmen forces located in the region.



A CNN Türk reporter in Yaylada? said a helicopter was hovering over the scene of the crash, apparently to pick up the pilots, but that opposition fighters were preventing it. The reporter later said one of the pilots was at the hands of Turkmen opposition fighters.

Prime Minister Davuto?lu has been briefed by the General Staff and ordered the Turkish Foreign Ministry to contact NATO, UN and relevant countries about the downed plane.

This huge escalation in the Syrian proxy war, one where a NATO country has openly attacked a non-NATO country (if Russia is correct and it did not violate Turkish airspace), comes after Turkey called this week for a U.N. Security Council meeting to discuss attacks on Turkmens in neighboring Syria, and last week Ankara summoned the Russian ambassador to protest the bombing of their villages.”


From (Google translated)

A spokesman for the Russian president, Dmitry Peskov, said that the Defense Ministry has not yet called the exact causes of death of the Russian Su-24, the correspondent “Heathcliff!”.

“While no definitive statements on the reasons of the crash from the Ministry of Defence we have not heard. Let’s still wait “- said Peskov journalists’ questions about the possible Russian reaction to the incident.

According to the official representative of the Kremlin, perhaps, Russian President Vladimir Putin will affect this issue at a meeting with Jordan’s King Abdullah II, which will be held on Tuesday, November 24 in Sochi. However, Peskov stressed, “it is really a very serious incident,” but to draw conclusions without having full information, “it would be wrong.” At the same time, he noted that it is known that the aircraft was “in Syrian airspace above its territory.”

Earlier Tuesday, 24 November the Ministry of Defense confirmed the decline in Syria Su-24 Russian air group, based at the airport Hmeymim. According to the military establishment, all while flying a bomber was solely within the airspace of Syria. “The plane was at an altitude of 6000 meters. The fate of the pilots specified.According to preliminary data, the pilots managed to eject, “- said the military.

Sukhoi Su-24 are part of the Russian group (Air Brigade Special Purpose), deployed in Syria at the airport Hmeymim at the end of September 2015. Since September 30, the grouping involved in the fighting against Russia banned in radical Islamist groups “Islamic state” and “Al-Nusra Dzhebhat.”


From Syrian War Update blog three weeks ago when Russian Metrojet airliner was blown up and bout Russian resolve and motivation of their involvement in Syrian war:

.. that opens important question whether or not Russians are prepared for human losses in Russia and/or elsewhere as a result of the military intervention in Syria. And what’s more important is what US neocons think about how Russian nation would respond to major tragedy and deaths directly related to the war.

We can be sure about one thing though, the war in  Syria is for Russians a continuation of Chechnya wars against terror of Muslim extremists sponsored by the usual suspects from Saudi Arabia and the West aimed toward ultimate disintegration of Russia as a nation and hence it is not a foreign war. This is their war with tens of thousands causalities already  dead or wounded so their twenty year resolve to defend their country will not be easily weakened.

Unfortunately, US neocons living in a dreamland of anti-Russian Cold War 2.0 hysteria, believe that sufficiently intense pain and suffering imparted on Russian civilians could potentially be used to further destabilize Putin regime and continue their already, at least 11 year old, effort to overthrow the Russian government via whatever means available including bloody springs of deception.

From Syrian War Update blog three weeks ago about Erdogan plans for Syria and his use of terrorists for his own ends:

The Sultan of Ankara after figuring out last June that he is not loved by all the subjects in Turkey (yet), did not make the same mistake last month, believing in his imperial hubris and simply rigged elections old fashion way, by killing, arresting and/or intimidating his political opponents from right, left to Kurds with knives, guns, bombs and insults, was finally able to sit on his throne. A perfect candidate to join EU fascists. What’s most interesting however, is that he went after pro-American secular neoliberal political parties as much as after communists.

So what are his plans at home and in Syria?

At home he plans to torture his subjects with elections/referendums until they love/submit to him as an unchallenged emperor of the Ottoman Empire, which he promised to resurrect. A political blueprint copied directly from Hitler who finally had approval from most of the nation after six tries and all the opposition dead, exiled or imprisoned in political reeducation camps. However, with all that surrealism, it actually makes sense in the context of the preprogrammed chaos in the Middle East we are witnessing now.

I order to achieve Turkish imperial objective, all those artificial post-colonial states would have to be slowly dissolved by promoting separation of ethnic, religious, cultural enclaves in Syria, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, Palestine and partially post-Saudi Arabia into statelets (Christians, Alawites, Turkmen, Kurds, local Sunnis, Shia, Yazidis etc., under a Turkish empire tolerant and enlightened protectorate.

What’s interesting that, as it was 500 years ago, Ottoman empire 2.0, after US influence in the Middle East evaporates (or before), would kindly extend protection to Jewish community in Palestine and elsewhere as long as they pay their taxes for there is nor place for Jewish state or autonomy in the blueprints of current political leadership in Ankara.

I do not have to tell you that those long-term plans do not go well in Tel-Aviv or US political establishment and hence recent US hostility to the Erdogan and failed attempts to overthrow him. Fortunately to the Sultan and his imperial Muslim brotherhood, our American Inconvenient Regime Overthrower in Chief, is a total failure in instigating WWIII although he tried really hard, and hence Nobel peace price due to his visible WWIII making disability.

In the context of Turkish great Imperial plans, ISIS, a US created, Gulf states’ supported military entity consisting of CIA assets from Syria, Iraq and Libya, recalled from early retirement in the Washington D.C suburbs, including some atheists former Ba’ath party military officials in Iraq and Syria, was a god’s send for Turkey.

This Alibaba gang with C4, trained and indoctrinated with nonsensical idea of Islamic Caliphate to be supposedly established by few thieves, brutal assassins and greedy opportunists devoid of any morality, or religious authority is a perfect propaganda predicate to the new Ottoman Empire.

I wish that all Muslims saw through the ISIS deception and propaganda aimed to convert, economically devastated, jobless male youth confused by their sexual drive and inability to afford marriage, into an imperial gun fodder. That would be a big step towards peace in the Middle East.

The Russia strategic goal is to preserve post-colonial order and let Middle East nation states to find their own peaceful path to democratization and enlightment, whatever their own people understand by those terms.



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